Tevya learned that love is more important than tradition. He realized that you can’t control love. He learned to trust his first two daughters. He had to learn that tradition may be the way things were done but tradition has to be ignored at times because times change. I don’t think it was right for him to shun his youngest daughter. He should have talked to her and explain why he didn't approve of the marriage. It was hard for him to accept her decision because she married outside her religion and marriage outside one’s religion just wasn't done.
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traelen david
1/15/2014 09:57:06 am
I liked your answer. You made some interesting points about the importance of overlooking tradition and realizing how something will affect someome for the rest of their life. Although i think his youngest daughter was different than the other two because religion was involved.
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Kalyn
1/23/2014 12:37:31 am
Trae I agree that his youngest daughter was more difficult then the other ones. And your right she was different because religion is the thing that I belive was holding tevye to shunning her.
Jessica
1/15/2014 11:48:43 am
I agree that Tevye did learn that sometimes love is more important that tradition. He definitely decided to try to understand why his first two daughters wanted to marry the person of their choice, but I also agree that it wasn't right for him to shun Chava just because she liked someone out of their religion. At first Chava acted like she didn't even want to talk to Fyedka because she knew that he was not part of their religion, but after he let her borrow his book, she realized that he was nice. I definitely think (like you said) Tevya should have talked to Chava about why he didn't approve of them being together. Chava at least tried to talk to him every once in a while, but he was too set in his ways. I definitely agree with you, but I also agree with Trae. This situation was different because there was religion involved. He did have the right to be mad about Chava's decision, but he didn't have the right to shun her and act like she was "dead" to him.
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Emily
1/20/2014 03:47:52 am
I like your point, Jessica, that Chava, though she was obviously raised to avoid non Jews, she gave Fyedka a chance and fell in love with him. I think that Tevye should have given them a chance to see what Fyedka was really like first before he just disowned his daughter. He might of liked Fyedka if he just gave him a chance.
Camden Goss
1/21/2014 09:34:33 pm
do you think that he should have taken some more time and sang the same song he did before he approved the other to daughters marriages?Do you think he also should have tried to change feydkas religion to what he believed in and follow his traditions.
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levi`
1/22/2014 11:55:02 pm
susy I agree with what you are saying especily with the religion comment because it was hard for him to accept her decision to marry her boyfriend who was not the same religion. I would not like someone to marry who did not have the same religion as me.
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traelen david
1/15/2014 09:49:38 am
Tevye learned that love cannot be forced between two people. He learned that once two people fall in love, nothing can stop them from being together. The heart wants what the heart wants and tevye had to learn that the hard way. I feel that it was tough for tevye to balance tradition with the realities of his life because he had never understood what love really was. I believe that he loved his wife, but since he did not choose her for himself, he wasnt in love with her. I think it was hard for him to understand love, so he thought that he had to shun them because of tradition. I dont agree with his decision because it is not fair to his daughter. I also think it was his only choice in his mind because he had never known any different.
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Alex Vandenbark
1/16/2014 01:07:55 pm
I agree with you that he loved his wife, but since he didn't choose her, it wasn't really love. I really liked how you explained that he possibly had to shun Chava and Fyedka because it was his only choice and he knew no other chance.
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Emily
1/21/2014 08:42:01 am
Good answer Trae, but I think that another reason that Tevye didn't want his daughters to get married, at least at first, was pride. He was the head of the house, the dad, and therefore, the matchmaker. I think that he liked having authority, and that it was kind of hard for him allow his daughters to be their own matchmakers. So another lesson that he learned was maybe a little humility.
levi
1/23/2014 12:36:42 am
I agree that nothing can stop love. I also agree that he should not shun his daughter. I know from real life experience that you can marry in a church and still be a family even if one parent does not agree. This is an example of tradition changing.
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Shaylee Johnson
1/15/2014 11:27:29 pm
The lessons that Tevye learned is that he cannot choose who loves who, and he learned that only God can bring two people together. tradition was changing and he did not want to change with it. His daughter said that the world was changing, but Tevye said that some things must stay the same in the world. I think that it was difficult for him to balance tradition because even though he wanted to stay in his own world and raise his daughters the way that he wanted them to grow up, which was as Jews and in Jewish tradition, the world would not let him. I do not agree that it was right for him to shun his third youngest daughter because he gave the older two a chance to go out into the world. When his two oldest daughters asked if they had his permission to get married, Tevye listened to God in his mind. With his youngest daughter, he didn't want to even listen to God. On the other hand it was wrong of Chava to just go head and get married without even talking to her family.
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traelendavid
1/16/2014 07:03:19 am
I agree that it was difficult for Tevye to adapt to the new world. I also agree that it was probably wrong for Chava to do what she did. I liked your answer and thought you did a good job of explaining what you thought. Well done! I'm impressed!
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Keegan
1/16/2014 11:43:34 pm
I also agree with your answer because it was good that Tevye changed for his daughters, and because I also agree that it was wrong for her to run off and marry him anyway
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Lauryn Muller
1/18/2014 03:01:52 am
Shaylee, I really enjoyed reading you comment. I agree when you said "Tevye learned is that he cannot choose who loves who, and he learned that only God can bring two people together. tradition was changing and he did not want to change with it." I also agree that it was wrong for him to shun Chava and act like she was "dead" to him. Since he let his two oldest daughters marry without the match maker, he shouldn't of been that mad that Chava didn't eventhough she did marry outside of tradition. I really loved your answer! you did a really good job explaining it!
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Lauryn Muller
1/15/2014 11:35:56 pm
Through out the movie "The Fiddler on the Roof," Tevye experienced many activities and learned from all of them. He learned that the love to his daughters was more important than tradition. He learned that tradition is changing with every generation like when he was growing up, his parents thought that what his son was doing sometimes was going away with tradition. With his first two daughter I think he let them go with the people they loved because of the love for his daughters, even though he knew if he did that, that was not the Jewish Traditions. When Chava wanted to get married to Fyedka and Tevye would let them, I believe that he did that because he thought that her marring a man with a different religion, was taking away there traditions too far. I believe that what Tevye did to Chava was not the right thing to do and was unfair. He let his other two daughter be with the people they loved, but he wouldn't let Chava. He was being hypocritical. Tevye learned a lot of things about tradition throughout the movie.
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Alex Vandenbark
1/16/2014 01:05:04 pm
I agree with you that he believed that letting his daughter marry a man of a different religion was taking bending tradition a bit too far. I also agree with you that he was being extremely unfair and hypocritical with his youngest daughter.
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Shaylee Johnson
1/20/2014 02:13:12 am
I like how you worded your answer, "He learned that the love to his daughters was more important than tradition" he did learn that for his first two daughters, but why do you think he didn't follow that rule for his third oldest daughter?
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Eleanor Vogel
1/20/2014 04:11:46 am
I agree with your answer, except I don't think Tevye was being hypocritical. I think he possessed the virtues and beliefs that he preached, I just think that he was being lenient on his daughters. The father got to choose who his daughters were to be married to, he let them marry who they wanted. It wasn't fully breaking traditions, he was just agreeing that maybe love could conquer all. In Chava's case, he didn't have the principles of letting her marry outside of the religion and didn't think that it was good. It wasn't like he was letting all his other daughters marry men with other religions, and not letting Chava, which would be very hypocritical.
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Camden Goss
1/21/2014 09:41:08 pm
Do you think that tevye would be okay with the marriage if feydka was a Jew or if he didn't believe in a religion
Kalyn
1/22/2014 01:03:14 pm
Eleanor I love your answer and I agree with being hypocritical. He did kinda show that a little in the movie
Jessica
1/15/2014 11:39:59 pm
I agree that Tevye did learn a lot about love. The first time he had met Golde was on their wedding day. His daughters were fortunate enough to find love on their own without a matchmaker. He made the right decision in letting his first two daughters marry the person they loved. I also agree that it wasn't right for him to shun Chava. He definitely should have at least talked to her about why he didn't want them to get married. Do you think it was different because religion was involved? Just because Chava wanted to marry out of their religion, do you think he would have said no even if they would have talked it out? I think Tevye had the right to be mad, but he didn't have to shun her and act like she was "dead" to him. I really like your answer!
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Jessica
1/15/2014 11:40:41 pm
That was a comment for Shaylee, sorry.
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Jaxon King
1/16/2014 11:38:51 pm
I agree that he had a right to be mad at his daughter, but I definitely don't think he should have shunned her and acted like she didn't even exist.
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Shaylee Johnson
1/20/2014 02:16:41 am
If he and Golde ended up loving each other, and they where forced to marry, why do you think he didn't force his daughters to marry? His daughters could have ended up loving who they where forced to marry.
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Alex Vandenbark
1/16/2014 12:58:54 pm
The lessons Tevye learned were that love is very powerful, powerful enough to break tradition. He learned that if two people fall in love, they cannot be separated from each other by any means. He also learned that the world was changing, even if he didn't want to, and he couldn't do anything to stop it. I believe it was hard for Tevye to balance tradition with reality because he was new to all the things his daughters were presenting before him, like marrying men of their choice instead of men their father had approved of. I also believe he couldn't balance tradition because the world wouldn't let him raise the daughters as he wanted to. The world kept presenting him with new ideas and changes that he wouldn't be able to stop. I do not agree with Tevye's decision to shun Chava and Fyedka because all she wanted was to be given fair treatment like her two older sisters. I think he should have at least given her a chance, but I can see why Tevye would've reacted the way he did as he was already bending tradition with his two eldest daughters, and letting his daughter marry a man of a different religion was just too much.
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Jaxon King
1/16/2014 11:37:21 pm
That was a very good post Alex and I agreed with everything you said.
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Keegan
1/16/2014 11:40:28 pm
I agreed with all of you comment except the part about shunning Chava but other than that you had a really good answer
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Keegan
1/16/2014 11:37:59 pm
Through the movie I think Tevye learned that love was more important than tradition and his love for his daughters outweighed his beliefs. I think it was hard for Tevye to balance tradition and belief because he followed the traditional way as a child and was set up with a match and was raised to the rules of their tradition, and was made to believe in certain things to keep tradition going. I believe that Tevye did the right thing shunning his daughter because his other two daughters married inside of the religion where as Chava did not, so I think he made the right decision in not accepting Chava and Fyedka and saying that she was dead to him. I think it was also the right decision because she ran off with Fyedka and did not try to convince her father to let her marry him.
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Lauryn Muller
1/18/2014 02:53:23 am
I agree that Tevye learned that love was more important than tradition and his love for his daughters outweighed his beliefs. However, I do not agree that Tevye made that right choice on shunning his daughter and making her "dead to him." I do not think that Chava should of just ran away and married him, but I do think they should of talked about it at first. Chava is still his daughter, no matter who she marries, and nothing can change that, so I do not agree that Tevye made the right choice on shunning his daughter. What do you think would of happened if he didn't shun Chava?
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Emily
1/21/2014 08:49:22 am
Great last question, Lauryn! It makes you think.
Jaxon King
1/16/2014 11:46:16 pm
Throughout the movie I think that Tevye learned a lot about love and his love for his family. He learned that sometimes it is hard to decide whether to follow tradition or love. He thinks that he always needs to stick to tradition, but it is hard for him to say no to tradition when his daughters have fallen in love. When he decided to shun Chava and Fyedka, I thought that that was not a good decision. I don't know how you would be able to just act like one of your daughters were dead. I understand that he wanted them to follow tradition, but in the end all you want is for them to be happy, and this was the only way that they would be. If I would have been Tevye, I would have tried to convince my daughters to follow tradition, but if they were dead set on marrying them, I would have let them.
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Eleanor Vogel
1/20/2014 04:05:16 am
Tevye was a man of God, and he believed that the traditions harbored by his people were just and right, even without any idea of other traditions. So, as his daughters fell in love with men, all of which weren't set up by the matchmaker or himself, he realized that love is a very powerful thing. He could have denied the marriage of his daughters and let them be unhappy the rest of their lives, but his love for them conquered tradition. He knew some traditions stayed around and a lot of them changed, but I don't think he wanted the same for his relationship with his daughters.
When he shunned Chava, it was strange to think about now. Disowning someone because of who they chose to marry, even though this still occurs today, but not so much with religion as with other reasons. To me, I think Tevye's decision was irrational, and he probably should have listened to Chava more and tried to relate her situation with his other daughters. But, I think he felt very strongly about religion, because traditions were one thing and religion was one big thing that traditions fit under. I think he was scared of that big of a change and he was angry that Chava ran off and got married even though she knew he wouldn't ever accept it; which I think was wrong on her part and she should have tried to talk about it more with her father. They both made mistakes, in my opinion, but I don't think Tevye stopped caring about her, because of what he said at the end of the film; no matter what, he wished the best for all of his daughters even if he didn't agree with their choices.
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Camden Goss
1/21/2014 09:29:38 pm
Its hard for tevey to balance tradition and realities of his life because times are changing. And it was becoming more acceptable for a daughter to choose who she wanted to marry. It also was not right for him to shun chava and fyedka because he could have just told his daughter that it was not right to marry out of the religion, or he could have tried to change the religion of fyedka.
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BethanyG
1/22/2014 12:04:47 pm
Through out "Fiddler on the Roof" Tevye learned that not all of his religions traditions have to be kept, especially the ones involving marriage. It was difficult for Tevye to balance tradition and the realities of his life because he was raised with the traditions of his religion,but he loved his daughters and he wanted them to be happy. I do not agree with his decision to shun his daughter and Fyedka, but I understand why he did it. It was against his beliefs and he felt that he couldn't bend the traditions anymore. I do not agree with his decision because Chava was his daughter and all she wanted was for her father to accept her and her husband.
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Kalyn
1/22/2014 01:00:59 pm
I think tevye was very much in a pickle. He had to make a tough decision , but I think he should have stuck to his love of daughters. He stuck my his first two, but then shunned the third one. I think he was in some way jealous and guilty of how he was letting the oldest daughters slid by his rules on tradition. And then jealous because his other perfect Jewish friends who followed the traditions. I think that tevye was more about his love for his family than anything though, he did shun his one daughter and I thought that was wrong. I think he should have gave her a chance to explain and look into her eyes and see that she was in love. Tevye did say god bless you at the end of the movie and I think that showed that he stil loved her even though she broke tradition.
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Kiril
1/23/2014 12:37:06 am
I think that Tevye learned a good lesson. He learned that love is more important than tradition. Tradition was everything for him, but loving someone is more important. The people you love mean everything to you and traditions come and go. Tevye did the wrong thing to shun Chava and Fyedka because religion does not do with anything. Love is more important than religion in my opinion
Tevya dealt with the decision between love and tradition. Additionally, Tevya learned that love is more important than tradition. Furthermore, he realized that true love can not be controlled nor denied.
With times changing and civilization modifying, the acceptance of an alternate decision affecting their religion is more common.
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