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In the movie, Chiyo had a hard life. She was basically treated like a slave by being purchased and sold like a piece of property. Like the other Geisha said when training Chiyo, the life of a Geisha is an uncomfortable and difficult lifestyle. Her life was about pleasuring men and being pure to bring a higher price. Women were not treated badly in my opinion, but they were treated like property and the men only used them to pleasure themselves. In our modern world, women do not seem to receive the same amount of pay for doing the same job as a man of equal qualification. In my opinion, if someone is qualified to do a job, they should receive equal pay no matter the race or gender of an individual. In many professions such as education for example, men seem to dominate the higher up managerial positions. This does make sense to me in some ways because it doesnt seem to me like women get along very good when one is the boss of many others. womens' rights have come a long way since the time period when the movie takes place. Girls are now able to participate in more activites such as sports like basketball and even football. Woman still aren't equal to men in some ways, but i feel that womens' rights are continuing to improve.
I agree with you that it does make sense sometimes to not have a woman in charge women tend to not get along when they are being told what to do by a woman. I agree that their rights have come a long way since the movies time period, and woman can play sports now too.
Trae, I really enjoyed reading you comment and I think you did a good job explaining you ideas and thoughts. I agree when you said that Chiyo was basically treated like a piece of property. I also agree with you that if some on qualified to do a job, they should receive equal pay no matter what race or gender of an individual. Although I do agree with you, I also disagree with some parts of your blog as well. Girls are able in boys sport activities such as baseball and football, but boys have more sports. Just think about the sports boys have had this school year: Football, basketball, wrestling, golf, and track. Girls sports this year: Volleyball, basketball, golf, and track. Yes girls can participate in males sports, but males have more sports then females do. So if you look at it that way things are pretty even. Other than that I agree with you.
I agree it should not matter if they are a man or women they should get equal pay. also in the movie how ever bought them could change their name to what ever they want.
I agree with your answer that women were treated as property back then and that they were treated as property I also agree that women do not get along with each other, but I disagree that women are not equal to men in some ways when I think in some ways they are more equak
In the movie Memoirs of Geisha, Chiyo lived a very troubling life. Chiyo was treated like a piece of property. She was sold to another family because of her father. She never got to choose what she wanted to do. All she wanted to do was become a Geisha and meet the Chairman. She did become a Geisha and see the Chairman again, but she had to go through so much to do that. When she became a Geisha she was only used to entertain and be mens entertainment. She to be pure to bring a higher price. The woman who trained her how to be Geisha choose the things that she wanted to do and her path. Chiyo did not get to choose for herself. She always had to obey her, no matter what. Woman during the mid 20th century to me where treated like puppets (like Kalyn said.) They did what they where forced to do. In our world today, woman are treated pretty well for how long it was for us to get some right that men have today. I think as the years go on, our rights will get better and that we will soon get caught up with men. Maybe one day we will have a woman president! I think that woman's rights will continue to improve throughout history.
I really agree with your comment Lauryn. I like how you explained that the Geisha that trained her dictated her life and her choices. I also liked the comparison to puppets as they were always being told what to do. I believe that one day we will have a woman president too.
In the movie, Memoirs of a Geisha, the girl Chiyo lived a very complex and harsh life. Chiyo was not treated like a human being, she was rather treated like a piece of property instead. Chiyo's entire life was her being told what to do by the woman who purchased her, and she had to obey her master's commands no matter what. Chiyo had to spend her entire life entertaining men, and she had to remain pure so that when she was sold, she would bring a much higher price. Her entire life she wanted to just meet the chairman again, but even when she did, she had to remain a Geisha and could not stray from that way of life. I do not believe that Chiyo was treated badly in this movie, but she was not given any rights of her own, and she could never make her own decisions. The women of Japan were not treated horribly, but they were basically property and only used for the enjoyment of men. Today in our world, women are not treated badly, but they are still not treated as equally as men. Men make more money than women for doing the same job, and only a small fraction of large fortune 500 companies have a woman in the illustrious spot of CEO. Also, it is more common to have a man doing the job of a principal or superintendent, and there are few women in agriculture compared to how many men are in that profession. This sometimes seems ethical though as (like Trae said) women don't seem to get along when one is the boss of a lot of women. Women's rights have come a tremendous way since the movie's time of taking place. Any sport that is offered to men must also be offered to women now. Women still have some ways that they are not treated as fairly as men, but I believe women's rights are slowly improving and will continue to improve for man years to come.
I agree with your answer. You made a good point about how they were treated; not bad but not good. Your answer is very specific.
I agree with you Alex. I like how you included that all sports that men are allowed to play, there is also an option for women to play. I think at times women are treated unfairly, but I think we have enough rights for women.
Alex i can kinda see where your coming from where you said that she wasnt treated badly, but just didnt get equal rights, but dont you think that that was the part of why she was treated badly in some eyes. I would say she was treated badly because there was no equality. She was used for pleasured, used like property that is treated badly to me. Nice points though:)
In memoirs of a geisha the women in japan are treated very poorly. Most of the women are sold as slaves. Then they are forced to dance at parties and social events. I think that the women in the us are treated a lot better then women in other countries. The women in the us also are getting higher ranks and doing more jobs.
Camden, how come you think women are treated differently in other countries? Don't you think women may be treated worse in other countries?
In the movie Memoirs of Geisha, Chiyo was not treated very good. She was treated very unfairly. This movie showed me how badly women were treated in the 20th century in Japan. Men were treated way better than women, and I still think that this is true today. Women are treated better now, but there are still some ways were women are treated unfairly. I don't think it is very bad though because women have all the rights they need. The world needs to be run by men because women fight to much, and for the most part men are smarter. I think that we have all the rights and laws we need for women. That is how I feel about the way women are treated today.
I agree that woman in the 20th century were treated very unfair, and that men were treated better than woman. I do disagree with you that the men needs to be run by men because woman fight to much and that we have all the rights we need for woman. Woman still need so many more rights, I believe. Manly when woman fight it is about a man, so if the world was ran by females, there would be no males around us to fight with. Also males are treated better than woman, and we are not yet treated equal, so in my opinion females still need more rights.
Lauryn i agree in some points that women need more rights, but also what would be examples of some equal rights that you would like us having more of?
I agree with your comment that she live a hard life, and that women have all the rights they deserve today.
In the movie Chiyo was treated unfairly and lived a hard life basically as a slave being raised her whole life to be sold as property. In the 20th century I think women were treated unfairly in japan and I think he story is a great example of these hardships Geisha's faced then. But I also think women are treated fairly now and in some cases are treated more fairly then men. Women fight too much amongst themselves to be great leaders while men can learn to get along with each other. So I think women have all the rights they need and are treated fairly now.
I agree with yours Keegan. I like how you added that girls fight to much among themselves to have very much responsibility.
Chiyo was treated very poorly in the movie. She was treated like a slave or property. She was always told what to do and how to do it. Women were not treated with respect. Men were like the rich people in our world today, but the women were the poor people or the pets that the rich people have. We are alot closer to equalness with women and men today.
Chiyo father sold her and her sister. chiyo's life, and the lives of women were not very good. they didn't get to choose their lives and they were property and didn't have their own names. she had no choice to become a geisha because of the people how bought her made her be come one. Chiyo story teach us that the women in Japan were property and didn't have choice in there lives and that women that were geisha were just for entertainment during the mid 20th century. Today women are not property and can decide our own fate. We can participate in sports and get any education we want. Females still have problems with high level jobs and politics.
I thought that the movie was very interesting. I never knew how different some cultures can be. I was very shocked that Chiyo's father sold her and her sister. He treated them as if they were property, and I think everyone should be treated as a person. Men would pay money to buy her. She was also seen as entertainment for men. She would dance and perform for their entertainment. She wasn't able to make a lot of her own decisions throughout the movie Memoirs of Geisha. She couldn't even see the man she loved, so she decided to become a Geisha to meet her love, the Chairman. I don't think women are always treated right. For example, all of our presidents are men. This may be a coincidence, but I think that should change and for once we should have a women as the president. We are closer to equality today than we were in the past, but you can still see that women are not treated fairly. A lot of large jobs are done by men, but women can do them just as effectively. Women are making a greater impact in history, but it is just going to take some time before men and women are completely equal.
Do you think that her father made the right decision to sell Chiyo and her sister for money?
Shaylee, I think that the father made the wrong decision for selling his children for money because they are his children and he should love them and always want to be with them. Financially, however, he made the best decision to sell his children for money. But, in the end it did not matter for him because he died. Also, some people could argue that he was doing the best for him and Chiyo and her sister.
I thought the movie showed disrespect for women! Chinyo had a hard life. She had little choices, treated like a puppet, (like Kalyn said), she sorta lived in poverty, and had to change her name. The movie pointed out that women looked at like a sexual being and not human. The chairman was nice to her and wanted the best for her. Today women still have a hard time being equal to me, but it is getting better. it is interesting that this movie was during the time of WWII which is also the time when women in the US started in the work force. (Rosie the Riveter) because men went to war. Just because women work, doesn't mean they always get equal pay for equal work. I think things are getting better in the work force for women. Watching the movie opened my eyes to some of these problems and I am glad that things will be better for my sisters and my mom.
She was treated very poorly. and I liked how you say she was treated like a puppet because their always has to be someone controlling a puppet, just like their was always someone controlling her.
Chiyo was treated very poorly. The other woman were treated the same way. They were almost treated like property. Like i said during the discussion in class, they were like puppets. They prepared to put on a show. They dressed up for it, wore make-up even to look the part. The costumes were probably tradition, but they were still like puppets to me. The movie showed us that women in Japan at that time didn't have much control over any decisions. The men were very over powering. Like one example was when Chiyo's father sold her and her sister to be a geisha. Chiyo and her sister didnt have a choice. The one thing i didnt really understand was that when training for the geisha it was being trained by a women, so that was the only time i thought that a female had a leadership role. Currently in this century we have some things about being male is more of a "good" thing. One major thing is presidency. There has never been a female president. Also in like a school for example the more leader roles like superintendent or principle is a male. Then the teachers are female. Our school has more male teachers than most though, but there are more females in the jobs that are dealing with dirt, cars, sweat, the outdoors, ect. They are more in cleaning, cooking, and teaching inside. This movie really hit the point in helping me understanding some of the gender related problems today.
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